Ezek 33:7 I have made you a watchman...therefore you shall hear a word from My mouth and warn them for Me.

Tuesday, June 24, 2025

FLAWS IN THE ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED PART 2 of 4

 

I hope you read part 1 last week, where I began an argument against the Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) theology. We continue on with that. I hope you see the importance of this: It’s really often a matter of heaven or hell for a person’s ultimate destiny. We begin with my third argument of how Scripture sees problems with OSAS, namely:

PUT VERSES IN CONTEXT BEFORE YOU GET DECEIVED INTO A WRONG THEOLOGY BASED ON A SINGLE VERSE—OR “CHERRY PICKING” VERSES, KEEPING THOSE YOU LIKE AND IGNORING CONTRARY VERSES

Hebrews 13:5: Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

You can see why OSAS adherents love this verse. This verse is actually a quote from Deuteronomy 31:6 (part of Moses’ final words to the children of Israel):

….do not fear nor be afraid of them; for the LORD your God… will not leave you nor forsake you.

But then for context you need to peek 10 verses ahead. In Deut 31:16-17a, in God's final words to Moses, from the same speech, no less, God is warning him of Israel’s apostasy (abandoning the faith). It’s a hard word for Moses, and with much warning for us:

And the LORD said to Moses: “Behold, you will rest with your fathers; and this people will rise and play the harlot with the gods of the foreigners of the land…. and they will forsake Me and break My covenant which I have made with them. 17 Then My anger shall be aroused against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide My face from them, and they shall be devoured.

Read that again: God forsook them! Because they forsook Him. Evidently the word "never" (Hebrews 13:5) doesn't have the unconditional meaning we think it has. (It has more of a "til' the unforeseen future" meaning).   In that Paul was quoting Deuteronomy, he is agreeing with the idea that God will never forsake you—unless you forsake Him first. Now you can try to wriggle out of the clear meaning of these words by citing your belief is “dispensationalism:” “Well, He was a vindictive God of Law in the Old Testament; but thank God for His dispensation of grace now.” But I argue back that God is not a God of change. As James 1:17 says,

Every good gift and every perfect gift …comes down from the Father… with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

We do not have two Gods in the Bible. The Old Testament is part of Scripture, and all Scripture is profitable for reproof, for correction in righteousness (II Tim 3:16). We can learn a lot about Him in the Old Testament—and won’t have to unlearn them when we study the New! The point is this: The God who forsook His people in those days because they forsook Him, will do the same again now. The truth has to include this: He will never leave you nor forsake you—IF you abide in Him. God help us to do so—but we have free will, and can forsake Him.

Now another thing you might cite about God never leaving us is to use, as our model, “the great promises to Israel,” whereby God will do miraculous things for Israel in the End times, and those people will be redeemed, so God “never forsook them”—so evidently you think God didn’t mean what he said in Deuteronomy 31:16 or II Chronicles 15. But the national promise to Israel is different than the promise to individuals. In the End times, perhaps many Jews will see Jesus as God, accept Him and are redeemed. But in Exodus those OTHER Jews who rejected the spies’ good report rejected God’s promise, and died unbelieving in the desert. The point is, God didn’t change; different Jewish responses did.

Further in the Word along this line is II Chronicles 15:2:

Now the Spirit of God came upon Azariah the son of Oded… and said to him: “Hear me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin. The LORD is with you while you are with Him. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will forsake you.

Seems clear, does it not?

Speaking of taking words out of context, yet another abused Scripture is Hebrews 10:12,14:

But this Man (Jesus), after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God,… 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

Despite the words “He has perfected forever” sounding like assurance for the believer, "being sanctified" is not always in the passive sense, thinking that God sanctifies me with no effort on my part. Fact is, you must desire to be sanctified. If you have no such desire, you are not saved.  Just one example—proof that our behavior is involved: I Thessalonians 4:3:

For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality;

Colossians 2:13: And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses

OSAS adherents cite this verse that God makes us alive and forgives us of all sins, past and future, when we accept Jesus. It's wonderfully true that upon the point of salvation, God makes us alive, and gives us the Holy Spirit.  But don't forget context: In the Sower in Matthew 13, some seed came alive, but under shallow soil. It later died. Suggesting that salvation may, under pressure, die. So it would not be permanent. Another point is about forgiveness of sin: does the verse specifically guarantee us forgiveness for all future trespasses? Paul is, after all, focusing about a past event (“has made alive”), at initial salvation. It could be, that he meant all trespasses to that point were forgiven.  Because if we later go apostate, and deny Christ, does simply believing this verse says what we hope it says protect us? No; you have to confess and repent, and rejoin with Christ before you can be forgiven. Some people don’t do that,  as we have seen, and end up losing their salvation.  For additional light, take a look at II Pet 1:9:

But if anyone does not have them (speaking of fruits), he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins

I think if Peter knew that he could include future sins in this statement, he would’ve mentioned them—but he doesn’t. Another enlightening verse is I John 1:9:

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

John is writing this to people who are believers already, so why do we need to keep on confessing our sins to obtain forgiveness—if we’re already guaranteed forgiveness from future sins?

It would be safe to conclude, in context with other Scriptures, that John evidently believes we’re not initially saved from future sins, so we need to continue confessing them to continue being forgiven. Introspecting on today's sins at the end of each day in prayer, and telling the Lord that we will do better, would be a good part of abiding in Christ.  It is an important part of Communion, right? (PS:  God is not so strict that He would not forgive if we haven’t confessed because we honestly forgot some).  So I conclude the “all trespasses” in Col 2:13 is more likely referring to all trespasses up to the point of initial salvation—which was, after all, the time period of Paul’s subject matter. Future sins are not covered by the “get out of jail free card.”

I Pet. 1:3-4: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who… has begotten us again…, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you

OSAS adherents love our inheritance, as a child of the King, that will never fade away. But this great passage of Scripture doesn’t say that we cannot annul the inheritance by disbelief or unrepentant gross sin. Consider what Jesus said in Matthew 10:33:

But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

Definitely wrapped up in the word “disown” is losing one’s inheritance. So it is possible.

While I’m on this subject, I need to bring up another verse that’s misinterpreted by OSAS folks. It’s II Timothy 2:13:

If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

This is quoted often by OSAS teachers; their interpretation of God being “faithful” here is that “He will accept our faithlessness and save us anyway—that’s what “He cannot deny Himself” also means.”  Well, dream on, un-Scripturally. Their problem in making this assumption is not taking context into account. Take a look at the previous verse, II Timothy 2:12:

If we deny Him, He also will deny us.

Whoa, considering that "denying Him" would be "faithless," 2:12 says the result of our faithlessness is that He will deny us. And we would clearly lose the inheritance. Taking the two verses together, this means the opposite of what OSASers think 2:13 says. So, to resolve the apparent contradiction, let’s do what you seldom see teachers do—reconcile 2:12b and 2:13. First, you have to see how awful a sin being “faithless” is; it is on purpose connected to 2:12’s denying Christ—and has such a punishment of hell, if unrepentant.. God many times calls faithlessness spiritual adultery. The Jews strayed into idol-worship, took their love away from God, and were called adulterers. Now before you say, “we don’t do idols in modern society,” you need to expand the meaning of “idol.” It’s anything that we think about as #1 in practical importance to us, instead of God. Say, we spend all that time at work and not think about bringing God into that experience; then spend a lot of time with food: cooking, and eating without seriously giving thanks; then socializing with friends without raising His name (or thinking about how to do so); or raising our kids without teaching them constantly about God—then I conclude that work, eating, friends, and kids all become idols because God is not #1, or even considered, in any of them. We’ve simply substituted modern idols for the ancient wood and stone. God should be a part of our life, like breathing—and it’s still "faithless" to only worship Him on Sundays, then leaving Him out for the rest of the week. We’re just as guilty of substituting God out of our life as the Jews did. Where’s the insistence that we should “abide in Christ” in modern society? Have we watered down the meaning of “abiding?”

The second thing you do to reconcile these two verses in II Timothy is: What does God mean when it says He “cannot deny Himself?”  We assume that if God is “faithful,” it is always positive for us. Not so. Check out Deuteronomy 7:9,10:

Therefore know that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy for a thousand generations with those who love Him and keep His commandments; 10 and He repays those who hate Him to their face, to destroy them. He will not be slack with him who hates Him; He will repay him to his face.

God's curse on His enemies is included, is it not, in His being faithful--to Himself. To His integrity. He is faithful in fulfilling ALL promises He makes.  So, that means He is faithful by carrying out His promised curses on the unsaved, as well as loving the saved. If that’s hard to accept, it’s probably because we haven’t thought much about hell. Think for a moment on how bad that is--and God created it.  We’re talking about fiery torment, continual pain, continual thirst, no contact with others (read Luke 16:19ff on these). And forever and ever…for eternity. Why not just for 50 years, or 100 years? Why not probation? Why not a second chance, or purgatory? Answer: God HATES sin (and certain sinners, Psalm 5:5 and Proverbs 6:16, 19) more than we can imagine—and ultimately His wrath will be faithful to His promise and carried out on the unrepentant sinner. Look at the evidence of His anger in the Deuteronomy verse above: God will repay him “to his face.” Now that’s a God with a grudge. A whole new meaning on II Timothy 2:13, is it not? If we are faithless to God, He will be faithful to carry out His promise--i.e., the curse of our sin remains on us.  The opposite of what OSASers think.

II Timothy 1:12: … Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day.

OSAS adherents claim that Jesus will do the work in guarding our salvation, so we are safe. But then why does Paul urge Timothy, two verses later, “Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.”  Guarding it is also our job. Our behavior is involved. Another verse on this is Hebrews 10:23:

Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.

Doesn’t that suggest that our righteous behavior ("holding fast," “without wavering,”) is what’s needed to bring us to heaven? I think so. A job for us to do. That’s what the verse says.

Matthew 7:21-23: Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

The OSAS adherent is trying to make the verses prove that you can't be saved and then unsaved.  So the OSASer says, about Matthew 7:23 above, “This is the way it is with all unbelievers; Jesus never knew them; it wasn’t that He knew them, then didn’t know them.”

My response is, first of all, yes, look at the virgins in Matthew 25:11. Jesus seemingly has the bridegroom telling the virgins, "I do not know you.”  But since all ten virgins were invited and well-known, the bridegroom must have known them. So what does he really mean by the statement "I do not know you?"  The phrase is an idiom—a phrase that is peculiar to a culture. When Jesus says "I never knew you," He is saying, "your thoughts and actions became too much like the world; you are so far removed from me, it's like I never knew you." The emphasis on oil and preparedness could mean that those that were unprepared had no Holy Spirit, a symbol of which is oil. See I Samuel 16:13. He has changed His opinion on their invite, because they lost the Holy Spirit. The Spirit left them when their choices were of the world. Thus, these verses are saying, our thoughts and actions need to be in His Spirit, so He will claim us in that day of judgement. Thus, they do not back the OSAS claim of how it's impossible to lose salvation.

In further proof, study Luke 15:11ff, the prodigal son: He was a son of his loving father, right? (Symbols of the saved person and God).  Then he became prodigal, walked away, and didn’t "abide with" his father any more. Then he sees the light, returns to his father, confesses his sin, and returns to the family and in his good graces. You see where I’m going? Now look at verse 24 of the prodigal story, the words of the happy father:

for this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’

So think…he was his son before, then he was dead (that’s the word Scripture uses), then he was alive again. That means, he was home at first, then became lost, then came back. Seems pretty clear here, to make the parable relevant to us, as all parables tend to do—he lost his salvation, then regained it.

A note: What additional valuable things do we learn in this prodigal parable, by the way? (1) We assume the father protected the son while he was under his care (as illustrated in John 10:28), but the son had the free will to depart of his own volition. (2) The father’s great love for his son (enough to forgive him freely after his wild life, when he repented) did not prevent the son from walking away, and becoming lost. Note also that the father did not chase after the son.  What Jesus is clearly saying is, God the Father allows free will on this, even to the point of loss of life.

NEXT WEEK: MORE ON THIS INFLUENTIAL DOCTRINE

Acknowledgement: Dan Corner, The Believer’s Conditional Security

 

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